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  <title>CSS Protected DVD - Apple Computer - tribe.net</title>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: Enough!!  - Thank you</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tony</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#2eee6964-8107-4181-a4a6-57b54da8d8d7</id>
    <updated>2009-01-13T07:20:37Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-13T07:20:37Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Sorry guys, actually I deleted my own post when I clicked on the wrong place.  No harm no foul.  &#xD;
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"I'm sure the moderator of the Hackers tribe would understand."  - Take a look at who the moderator is.  :)</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-13T07:20:37Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Enough!!  - Thank you</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2009-01-13T04:46:06Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-13T04:46:06Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Yeah, It doesn't help that i have a ... colorful.. past that taught me the hard way how thorough the FBI can be.  :)&#xD;
I'm sure the moderator of the Hackers tribe would understand.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-13T04:46:06Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Enough!!  - Thank you</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#07e23fc2-73ad-42cd-affd-3fe2c2b19924</id>
    <updated>2009-01-13T03:46:29Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-13T03:46:29Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I too apologize. I am not aware of what got deleted either, nor was I aware of any animosity.  Tedward, I may have come across sarcastic but I was genuine.  I understand conspiracy, the Rico act and going too far.  When I say we have the right to speak it was merely "This is the application you need to do what you want to do"   If the FBI was looking for me for that... They would also have o shut down Google, after all that was where I found what I needed.&#xD;
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Mouthing off to a judge is never a good idea even if it's just for putting quarters in someone else's meter.&#xD;
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No stress ~ no worries.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-13T03:46:29Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Enough!!  - Thank you</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#904cd7ec-c9ea-4de6-bcd3-20078f562dba</id>
    <updated>2009-01-13T01:29:24Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-13T01:29:24Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I don't know what got deleted there, but I thought things were going pretty civilly.  Sorry for my part in any stress.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-13T01:29:24Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Enough!!  - Thank you</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tony</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#7346a04b-8c52-49b9-ade3-6ad3d943de33</id>
    <updated>2009-01-13T01:21:02Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-13T01:21:02Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Ok guys,&#xD;
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As much as I would love to get into a political debate about freedom of speech, what is legal and what is not, I would like this ended now.&#xD;
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There are two great solutions for 2 great products to do what you want to do listed in the beginning of this thread.  That is the point of this Tribe, to help each other, not condemn.  Let's end this discussion.&#xD;
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If you would like to talk about freedom of speech, et. al. there are lots of great tribes here for those moral discussions.&#xD;
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Thank you,&#xD;
-Tony&#xD;
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* In the time I have moderated this tribe I believe this is the first time I put my foot down.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-13T01:21:02Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Enough</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tony</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#12608394-30b1-4b0a-bd28-9a2a3670df21</id>
    <updated>2009-01-13T01:19:00Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-13T01:18:26Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Ok guys,&#xD;
&#xD;
As much as I would love to get into a political debate about freedom of speech, what is legal and what is not, I would like this ended now.  &#xD;
&#xD;
There are two great solutions for 2 great products to do what you want to do.  Let's end this discussion.  &#xD;
&#xD;
If you would like to talk about freedom of speech, et. al. there are lots of great tribes here for these moral discussions.&#xD;
&#xD;
Thank you,&#xD;
   -Tony&#xD;
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* In the time I have moderated this tribe I believe this is the first time I put my foot down.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-13T01:18:26Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#c863928c-12bf-456a-ab98-172bf071c0e8</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T23:44:06Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T23:44:06Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Doubtless.  Let's start by first saying that he was an idiot.  He went VERY far into detailed explanations on how to do things. even talking people into doing it that were a little on the fence.  Next he had a crappy lawyer, and finally he got lippy with the judge.  Not a great combo.  But even if he was smart about it, the chatter online got some very suspicious eyes on him, and that's what most people would like to avoid.&#xD;
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BTW first amendment rights do not extend to conspiracy, assault, or premeditated intent.  If you and I start planning on how to destroy the ... statue of liberty, that's conspiracy to commit a felony, and worth a couple of years.  If we plan more than one job, or drugs get involved, then it's the Rico act.  &#xD;
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Just saying.  Don't believe that the first amendment gives you the right to discuss anything, anywhere.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T23:44:06Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Blue Lobster</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#462df5c9-6d0a-4604-a4ed-bab85708fea0</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T23:41:24Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T23:41:24Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Sorry, I don't give in to FUD. Making illegal copies will get you in trouble. However, it is lawful to make archival backups of anything you have.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Blue Lobster</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T23:41:24Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#93e8b352-6f8a-4dd8-a997-6e21f0e7687f</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T23:31:21Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T23:31:21Z</published>
    <summary type="html">No shit?  You got a buddy in jail just for telling somebody how to do something?   I empathize, but your buddy had a crappy lawyer.  1st amendment right s have been violated here.  I believe you are entitled to tell people how do do something and not be held liable for their actions.&#xD;
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I don't know the case  in detail, but your buddy got reamed</summary>
    <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T23:31:21Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#b9d1ba54-0fb1-44b3-a6b6-a3ae0c32ec50</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T20:42:10Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T20:42:10Z</published>
    <summary type="html">We I do have "capital" ideas, but if you got it working.  excellent.&#xD;
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Oh, I've made a few infractions of the law in the past, it's just that people get awfully comfortable just blathering any old thing on public boards, sometimes without realizing the legality aspect.  A buddy of mine is in prison for multiple counts of accessory to grand theft for teaching people how to share their video collections with a private bittorrent tracker.  Unlike email, the things you post here are publicly traceable.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T20:42:10Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#06230c65-7166-46b4-835a-5b8a5093924c</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T16:01:47Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T16:01:47Z</published>
    <summary type="html">And you never made a mixed tape tape before?   Never mind, I found Aimersoft DVD Copy for Mac. It did the trick.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T16:01:47Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#dbef1b1f-cd81-4f75-bfe2-d65282c8e9c2</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T11:24:31Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T11:24:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">"The unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this copyrighted work is illegal. Criminal copyright infringement, including infringement without monetary gain, is investigated by the FBI and is punishable by up to five years in federal prison and a fine of $250,000."</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T11:24:31Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#6ed1d364-b55e-4aa3-a525-a933c5089bce</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T11:20:54Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T11:20:54Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Blue, I hate to burst your bubble but people have been jailed for having illegal copies of movies and software, even when the originals were present.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T11:20:54Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Blue Lobster</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#247c5d9f-a876-4747-b1b0-a7a96a7154d7</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T11:10:35Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T11:10:35Z</published>
    <summary type="html">It is NOT illegal to make copyies of anything. You CANNOT redistribute anything that has stipulations against that in the EULA.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Blue Lobster</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T11:10:35Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tedward</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#f09456c9-ca61-405e-97b7-6b1b0d669a86</id>
    <updated>2009-01-12T10:28:15Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-12T10:28:15Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Let's pull the HANDBRAKE on this one, and point out that bypassing copyright is illegal.  And encouraging anyone to do so is also illegal.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-12T10:28:15Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>CSS Protected DVD</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://AppleComputer.tribe.net/thread/b8baa3cb-67c0-47cd-a077-c945952ad15a#14b0e35f-3442-43da-8dcf-96c2919cd9bd</id>
    <updated>2009-01-10T03:20:01Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-10T03:20:01Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Does anybody know how to rip or copy a CSS protected DVD?</summary>
    <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-10T03:20:01Z</dc:date>
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